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Loved hearing you with Katie and Jesse, happy new year Helen!

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Yes I saw the piece on pubs and had similar thoughts myself. The fast disappearing traditional pub had a simple remit, somewhere to meet and chat combined with leisurely drinking and proper tables and chairs, hopefully friendly bar person who listened to your troubles and knew your friends and could ban you if you overstepped the mark. Speaking of which they’re repeating Early Doors on BBC 4 tonight. But “young people “ have apparently stopped drinking so maybe it’s Jordon Peterson who’s messing with their minds after all.

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