Morning Helen, just a thought about upf: honey lasts years (and is made by bees), wine last years (and has been made the same way fir millenia), Romans used salt to cure meat. The length of time a food lasts without spoiling is not a useful indicator of whether or not it is ultraprocessed. Nutrition science is nuanced and complex, and the ideas behind upf remain contested. There's a lot more I could say, but I'm on holiday :-)
Since listening to Chris and Xand VT on UPFs and reading Tim Spector's books I've been noticing the distinction between things that are "edible" and things that are "food". In my own head mostly but also with my children. Doesn't mean I don't still occasionally eat a Snickers if I really want one, but I feel empowered that I know why the Snickers is like it is, the reasons I want the Snickers and the sensory and psychological reasons the Snickers makes me feel good while eating it (and perhaps not so good later on.)
And also: I don't get the Succession reference but Bad P&P. So bad.
I'm afraid the P&P meme went over my head - could some kind soul explain?
[As for it being "the bad P&P", I thought Donald Sutherland's Mr Bennet was a very interesting take on the character... But yeah, wow, that's a terrible ending.]
That MM meme is just perfection. So good I had to immediately share it before reading another word.
Also, 😫 missing link to the Gdn piece about the Succession writers?
Oops, yes it should be this: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/30/succession-inside-story-brits-write-new-york-drama-tv-series-final-season-spoilers
Tripping balls - really the perfect summary.
Morning Helen, just a thought about upf: honey lasts years (and is made by bees), wine last years (and has been made the same way fir millenia), Romans used salt to cure meat. The length of time a food lasts without spoiling is not a useful indicator of whether or not it is ultraprocessed. Nutrition science is nuanced and complex, and the ideas behind upf remain contested. There's a lot more I could say, but I'm on holiday :-)
Thanks, those are very valid points. I guess for me the alienation was about how weird this wall of stuff was. Homogenous and yet vast.
Yeah I get that. It us weird to think about what isn't there - fruit for example.
Since listening to Chris and Xand VT on UPFs and reading Tim Spector's books I've been noticing the distinction between things that are "edible" and things that are "food". In my own head mostly but also with my children. Doesn't mean I don't still occasionally eat a Snickers if I really want one, but I feel empowered that I know why the Snickers is like it is, the reasons I want the Snickers and the sensory and psychological reasons the Snickers makes me feel good while eating it (and perhaps not so good later on.)
And also: I don't get the Succession reference but Bad P&P. So bad.
James Felton is singularly unfunny. But his consistency in that at least is impressive.
I'm afraid the P&P meme went over my head - could some kind soul explain?
[As for it being "the bad P&P", I thought Donald Sutherland's Mr Bennet was a very interesting take on the character... But yeah, wow, that's a terrible ending.]
Sorry! You need to have watched Succession.
Ah! Thanks.